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  • Serial_Apologist
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    • Dec 2010
    • 37812

    #16
    Originally posted by Frances_iom View Post
    if it's not then give me an email

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    • Frances_iom
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      • Mar 2007
      • 2415

      #17
      looks as tho exile is no longer the plan - annihilation seems to be working with 1% of population dead (presumably another 3% seriously wounded) with an attrition rate of 0.01% the next 100days will double this - just need a few more mistakes with the wrong type of munitions.

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      • Dave2002
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        • Dec 2010
        • 18034

        #18
        Not quite exile - as officially he's a criminal spending time in a penal colony, but Alexei Navalny has been moved to a remote part of Russia in Siberia.
        Last edited by Dave2002; 30-12-23, 16:12.

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        • Forget It (U2079353)
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          • Nov 2010
          • 132

          #19
          Dostoevsky served four years of exile with hard labour at a katorga prison camp in Omsk, Siberia of which he wrote:
          In summer, intolerable closeness; in winter, unendurable cold. All the floors were rotten. Filth on the floors an inch thick; one could slip and fall ... We were packed like herrings in a barrel ... There was no room to turn around. From dusk to dawn it was impossible not to behave like pigs ... Fleas, lice, and black beetles by the bushel
          https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Fyodor...9%E2%80%931854)

          leading on to 4 great novels

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          • Dave2002
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            • Dec 2010
            • 18034

            #20
            Originally posted by Forget It (U2079353) View Post
            Dostoevsky served four years of exile with hard labour at a katorga prison camp in Omsk, Siberia of which he wrote:

            https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Fyodor...9%E2%80%931854)

            leading on to 4 great novels
            Are you suggesting that it's OK to send people into exile in very cold and unpleasant places for several years so that they will become great artists?

            One great work of art for each year of exile, perhaps.

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            • smittims
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              • Aug 2022
              • 4325

              #21
              Yes, it's a question of emphasis. In one of Alan Bennett's plays, Kafka's much-maligned father claims that he should be praised as the inspiration and catalyst of Kafka's great works. Similarly, when there's a big disaster or catastrophe, there's always someone who pops up to say that the thing that most struck them was the way everyone pulled together to overcome the problems , and these disasters bring out the best in people, leaving one with the feeling that we ought to have more of them.

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              • Serial_Apologist
                Full Member
                • Dec 2010
                • 37812

                #22
                Originally posted by smittims View Post
                Yes, it's a question of emphasis. In one of Alan Bennett's plays, Kafka's much-maligned father claims that he should be praised as the inspiration and catalyst of Kafka's great works. Similarly, when there's a big disaster or catastrophe, there's always someone who pops up to say that the thing that most struck them was the way everyone pulled together to overcome the problems , and these disasters bring out the best in people, leaving one with the feeling that we ought to have more of them.


                It's a sad indicator when wars and disasters are so often chosen for highlighting heroism.

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