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  • Dave2002
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    • Dec 2010
    • 18034

    Pretending to be "green" or having plans.

    I still don't really know whether hydrogen has any serious potential for Zero carbon targets. If indeed it can be generated in a low carbon manner that would be good, but almost all the hydrogen generated is as a result of fossil fuel exploitation.

    Here is an update on whether "green" hydrogen is going to work in the UK - https://eandt.theiet.org/content/art...de-bodies-warn
  • Serial_Apologist
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    • Dec 2010
    • 37812

    #2
    I don't know about hydrogen production but I do increasingly worry about opponents of sustainable energy production claims that the natural energy expended on manufacturing and maintaining the infrastructures will still be equivalent to those for today's non-renewables.

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    • gradus
      Full Member
      • Nov 2010
      • 5622

      #3
      I hope that whichever government is in office some help will be given to the million plus homes off the gas grid that rely on heating oil and who will face problems when their boiler gives up the ghost after the threatened new oil boiler ban comes in 2026. Apparently it is possible to process vegetable oils and animal fats to produce a heating oil that has 90% less pollutants than kerosene. If so, I hope the oil boiler ban is modified to allow new installations capable of using the the new fuel. For those of us with old listed timber-framed houses it is impossible to install air source systems that necessitate excellent insulation standards to work properly and adversely affect the building's ability to breathe. The builders didn't anticipate that in !550.

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      • oddoneout
        Full Member
        • Nov 2015
        • 9268

        #4
        Originally posted by gradus View Post
        I hope that whichever government is in office some help will be given to the million plus homes off the gas grid that rely on heating oil and who will face problems when their boiler gives up the ghost after the threatened new oil boiler ban comes in 2026. Apparently it is possible to process vegetable oils and animal fats to produce a heating oil that has 90% less pollutants than kerosene. If so, I hope the oil boiler ban is modified to allow new installations capable of using the the new fuel. For those of us with old listed timber-framed houses it is impossible to install air source systems that necessitate excellent insulation standards to work properly and adversely affect the building's ability to breathe. The builders didn't anticipate that in !550.
        Yet another example of this so-called government floundering in the mire of its ignorance and complete lack of policy coherence. Even if it were possible for the homes affected(which it obviously isn't), replacing oil boilers with ASHPs comes up against 2 fairly big issues - grid capacity, or lack of(not helped by the on-shore wind generation de facto ban), and lack of people to install them, both of which are already known about, and an issue, with the facile swap gas for heatpumps push. It also seems odd, given the government's enthusiasm for continuing to extract oil, that the replacement/ban isn't being done on the same basis as the one for gas boilers, ie like for like is permitted but not new installations in new builds.
        I wonder how many MPs have oil boilers in their country homes. A good few will be in constituencies where lack of alternatives means that oil boilers are the norm. It may be one situation where personal interests blocking legislation might have some use?!

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