Bernard Haitink documentary

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  • Alison
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    • Nov 2010
    • 6455

    #46
    Cheers Pet. I had wondered whether Bernard had ever returned to the piece so it was good to get that confirmation.

    I was a bit puzzled by the reference to having six great years at the LPO when his tenure was double that.

    Did that imply the relationship got a bit rockier after that? I probably need to revisit the Simon Munday book.

    A new Haitink biography is now urgently required!

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    • Barbirollians
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      • Nov 2010
      • 11682

      #47
      Originally posted by Alison View Post
      Cheers Pet. I had wondered whether Bernard had ever returned to the piece so it was good to get that confirmation.

      I was a bit puzzled by the reference to having six great years at the LPO when his tenure was double that.

      Did that imply the relationship got a bit rockier after that? I probably need to revisit the Simon Munday book.

      A new Haitink biography is now urgently required!
      Like all Bridcut’s films very enjoyable.

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      • Petrushka
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        • Nov 2010
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        #48
        Originally posted by Alison View Post

        A new Haitink biography is now urgently required!
        There is this https://www.amazon.co.uk/gp/product/...?ie=UTF8&psc=1 but there is no English edition and my German isn't good enough to cope.
        "The sound is the handwriting of the conductor" - Bernard Haitink

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        • gurnemanz
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          • Nov 2010
          • 7387

          #49
          Had a look at some German reviews out of curiosity. This one summarises it as a slim volume, readable, not many surprises. Three stars.


          I discovered that one of his favourite books is Thomas Mann's Doktor Faustus, which he read in German to improve his knowledge of that language.

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          • jayne lee wilson
            Banned
            • Jul 2011
            • 10711

            #50
            Originally posted by Alison View Post
            Does anyone on here know the Cherubini Requiem?
            Yes, a soft spot for it for a few years now; recently in the the swiftly impassioned, typically operatic Hervé Niquet recording on Qobuz. There's a lovely new release of the second, D Minor one from Frieder Bernius in Stuttgart, a source that has already given us the C Minor, some excellent Zelenka and a recent, glorious Beethoven Missa Solemnis too....



            Listen to Kammerchor Stuttgart in unlimited on Qobuz and buy the albums in Hi-Res 24-Bit for an unequalled sound quality. Subscription from £10.83/month
            Last edited by jayne lee wilson; 28-09-20, 02:20.

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            • LMcD
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              • Sep 2017
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              #51
              Originally posted by Petrushka View Post
              There is this https://www.amazon.co.uk/gp/product/...?ie=UTF8&psc=1 but there is no English edition and my German isn't good enough to cope.
              'Conducting Is A Riddle - Conversations and Essays'. It would certainly keep my German up to scratch, but I've already got far too many books waiting to be read! I found a German review which gives it 3 stars, pointing out that there are very few surprises and very little is given away when it comes to personal matters. He was invited, twice, to conduct the New Year's Concert in Vienna: 'that orchestra, in that atmosphere - impossible!' He also felt the same way about conducting at Bayreuth: 'I wouldn't feel right on the "Green Hill"' (which he once visited briefly).
              Last edited by LMcD; 28-09-20, 07:54.

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              • gurnemanz
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                • Nov 2010
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                #52
                Originally posted by LMcD View Post
                'Conducting Is A Riddle - Conversations and Essays'. It would certainly keep my German up to scratch, but I've already got far too many books waiting to be read! I found a German review which gives it 3 stars, pointing out that there are very few surprises and very little is given away when it comes to personal matters. He was invited, twice, to conduct the New Year's Concert in Vienna: 'that orchestra, in that atmosphere - impossible!' He also felt the same way about conducting at Bayreuth: 'I wouldn't feel right on the "Green Hill"' (which he once visited briefly).
                see #49 above

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                • Bryn
                  Banned
                  • Mar 2007
                  • 24688

                  #53
                  Originally posted by Alison View Post
                  The Lucerne concert was broadcast one afternoon in the winter.

                  No doubt you’re aware of the video of the Salzburg one.
                  What about the 2009 Chicago on CD? Worth an ear or two?

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                  • Petrushka
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                    • Nov 2010
                    • 12250

                    #54
                    Originally posted by Bryn View Post
                    What about the 2009 Chicago on CD? Worth an ear or two?
                    Indeed it is. Like Peter Quantrill, reviewing the VPO Salzburg DVD for the latest Gramophone, I heard Haitink conduct Bruckner 7 with very nearly every orchestra with whom he conducted the piece including the Chicago SO. I think this music will forever be associated with him in my mind.
                    "The sound is the handwriting of the conductor" - Bernard Haitink

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                    • Bryn
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                      • Mar 2007
                      • 24688

                      #55
                      Originally posted by Petrushka View Post
                      Indeed it is. Like Peter Quantrill, reviewing the VPO Salzburg DVD for the latest Gramophone, I heard Haitink conduct Bruckner 7 with very nearly every orchestra with whom he conducted the piece including the Chicago SO. I think this music will forever be associated with him in my mind.
                      Just uncovered where I tucked last year's Prom performance away, both the stereo and binaural versions. It's a shame that they did not offer a binaural version of the Beethoven. Still, mustn't look a gift-horse in the mouth. PM me if you feel in need.

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                      • Alison
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                        • Nov 2010
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                        #56
                        Originally posted by Bryn View Post
                        What about the 2009 Chicago on CD? Worth an ear or two?
                        Definitely, a 10/10 from Dave Hurwitz notwithstanding.

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                        • Bryn
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                          • Mar 2007
                          • 24688

                          #57
                          Originally posted by Alison View Post
                          Definitely, a 10/10 from Dave Hurwitz notwithstanding.
                          I'll stream from QOBUZ, later. For the moment I am lapping up Prom 60 from last year.

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                          • Alison
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                            • Nov 2010
                            • 6455

                            #58
                            Originally posted by LMcD View Post
                            'Conducting Is A Riddle - Conversations and Essays'. It would certainly keep my German up to scratch, but I've already got far too many books waiting to be read! I found a German review which gives it 3 stars, pointing out that there are very few surprises and very little is given away when it comes to personal matters. He was invited, twice, to conduct the New Year's Concert in Vienna: 'that orchestra, in that atmosphere - impossible!' He also felt the same way about conducting at Bayreuth: 'I wouldn't feel right on the "Green Hill"' (which he once visited briefly).
                            Thank you. I have often wondered about the New Year concert if not Bayreuth.

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                            • cloughie
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                              • Dec 2011
                              • 22120

                              #59
                              Just watched the documentary - marvellous quiet playing and shape to the sounds he got from orchestras. In many ways a troubled soul - got the impression that he hides a lot inside a very calm exterior.

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                              • Barbirollians
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                                • Nov 2010
                                • 11682

                                #60
                                Reminded by the documentary to get round to hearing Cherubini ‘s Requiem properly . What a terrific piece it is especially in the Concert Spirituel/Niquet recording coupled with a strange but disturbing requiem by Plantade for Marie Antoinette . A great record.

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