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  • Bryn
    Banned
    • Mar 2007
    • 24688

    Originally posted by MrGongGong View Post
    Unless the government makes it a policy to close theatres and halls they can't get any compensation.
    The government looking after the assets of insurance companies at the expense of the rest of us (and this applies to pubs, small venues etc equally)
    There's a lot of fuss going on about this at the moment...


    What I want to say about this will get deleted
    Recent reports suggest many insurance policies have 'get-out' clauses to avoid pay-outs even if the Government did decree shut-downs of theatres et al.

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    • MrGongGong
      Full Member
      • Nov 2010
      • 18357

      Originally posted by Bryn View Post
      Recent reports suggest many insurance policies have 'get-out' clauses to avoid pay-outs even if the Government did decree shut-downs of theatres et al.
      Fuckers

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      • Dave2002
        Full Member
        • Dec 2010
        • 18009

        Grange Opera have cancelled their run at West Horsley this year. They have asked for money for tickets already ordered to be donated, if possible.

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        • LHC
          Full Member
          • Jan 2011
          • 1556

          It’s being reported that the Met Opera has given its orchestra and chorus two weeks notice, after which they will no longer be paid. The only glimmer of hope in this is that the Met will continue to fund their health insurance, which given the state of the US health system is I imagine pretty important.

          It still feels like a pretty awful move on the part of the Met’s management.
          "I do not approve of anything that tampers with natural ignorance. Ignorance is like a delicate exotic fruit; touch it and the bloom is gone. The whole theory of modern education is radically unsound. Fortunately in England, at any rate, education produces no effect whatsoever. If it did, it would prove a serious danger to the upper classes, and probably lead to acts of violence in Grosvenor Square."
          Lady Bracknell The importance of Being Earnest

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          • MrGongGong
            Full Member
            • Nov 2010
            • 18357

            Originally posted by LHC View Post
            It’s being reported that the Met Opera has given its orchestra and chorus two weeks notice, after which they will no longer be paid. The only glimmer of hope in this is that the Met will continue to fund their health insurance, which given the state of the US health system is I imagine pretty important.

            It still feels like a pretty awful move on the part of the Met’s management.

            Out-fucking-rageous

            Let's hope the management who did this go out of business
            we don't need these kinds of people in charge of things

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            • LHC
              Full Member
              • Jan 2011
              • 1556

              Originally posted by MrGongGong View Post
              Out-fucking-rageous

              Let's hope the management who did this go out of business
              we don't need these kinds of people in charge of things
              May not be quite as bad as feared. Apparently, being ‘laid off’ like this qualifies them for unemployment benefits from the US govt. and this is how many musicians in the US survive on a regular basis when orchestras or opera companies don’t have year round seasons.

              For example, this is how the musicians of the SF Opera Orch. earn a salary year round. They collect salaries when the SF Opera is in season and then unemployment (for lack of work) benefits for the months when it is not. As the Met is in NY, they are likely to receive the maximum unemployment benefit of 500 dollars a week. Although this is likely to be a substantial cut in the Met Opera Orchestra salary, they won’t be destitute, and will be re-employed when the Met re-opens.

              Still something of a shock that the Met should institute this so quickly and brutally.
              "I do not approve of anything that tampers with natural ignorance. Ignorance is like a delicate exotic fruit; touch it and the bloom is gone. The whole theory of modern education is radically unsound. Fortunately in England, at any rate, education produces no effect whatsoever. If it did, it would prove a serious danger to the upper classes, and probably lead to acts of violence in Grosvenor Square."
              Lady Bracknell The importance of Being Earnest

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              • DracoM
                Host
                • Mar 2007
                • 12963

                See the current 'Private Eye'. Phew!

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                • MrGongGong
                  Full Member
                  • Nov 2010
                  • 18357

                  Originally posted by LHC View Post
                  May not be quite as bad as feared. Apparently, being ‘laid off’ like this qualifies them for unemployment benefits from the US govt. and this is how many musicians in the US survive on a regular basis when orchestras or opera companies don’t have year round seasons.

                  For example, this is how the musicians of the SF Opera Orch. earn a salary year round. They collect salaries when the SF Opera is in season and then unemployment (for lack of work) benefits for the months when it is not. As the Met is in NY, they are likely to receive the maximum unemployment benefit of 500 dollars a week. Although this is likely to be a substantial cut in the Met Opera Orchestra salary, they won’t be destitute, and will be re-employed when the Met re-opens.

                  Still something of a shock that the Met should institute this so quickly and brutally.
                  Thanks for the clarification

                  It's rare that one thinks that the situation might be better in the USA than in the UK

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                  • Bryn
                    Banned
                    • Mar 2007
                    • 24688

                    Originally posted by DracoM View Post
                    See the current 'Private Eye'. Phew!
                    Mine arrived yesterday. For once, I think the Daily Mail a more suitable publication.

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                    • DracoM
                      Host
                      • Mar 2007
                      • 12963

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                      • Count Boso

                        I have just had an email from WNO announcing the obvious, which reminded me of something that occurred to me a few weeks ago when I saw their production of Les Vepres Siciliennes.

                        French-style ballet sequences in operas: unless I completely misinterpreted, not for the first time, the main sequence mirrored an event in the past which had simply been alluded to (but wasn't a scene that was actually represented), namely in this case de Montfort's abduction and rape of the Sicilian woman who then gave birth to Henri.

                        What I wondered was whether ballet sequences were ever intended to be choreographed in this way. I'd thought of them as just being dance interludes like the musical interludes half way through BBC radio comedy programmes ('And now we have the Fraser Hayes Four, the Stargazers, Max Geldray and his mouth organ' sort of thing). Anyway, I thought it was very effective and suitably dark. But was this unusual?

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                        • Count Boso

                          I think this might be on the wrong thread. A bit.

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