BaL 9.02.19 - Beethoven: Piano Concerto no 5 in E flat "Emperor"

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  • ferneyhoughgeliebte
    Gone fishin'
    • Sep 2011
    • 30163

    #16
    Originally posted by pastoralguy View Post
    Bravo, sir!
    Oh, absolutely - astonishing job, Alpie
    [FONT=Comic Sans MS][I][B]Numquam Satis![/B][/I][/FONT]

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    • jayne lee wilson
      Banned
      • Jul 2011
      • 10711

      #17
      This seems an almost wilfully perverse choice for a BaL. How do they come up with them? So many more interesting options....

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      • Eine Alpensinfonie
        Host
        • Nov 2010
        • 20578

        #18
        Originally posted by ferneyhoughgeliebte View Post
        Oh, absolutely - astonishing job, Alpie
        I think there have been longer lists. Beethoven’s 3rd & 5th symphonies, Tchaikovsky’s 1st piano concerto, Vivaldi’s Four Seasons all spring to mind.

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        • richardfinegold
          Full Member
          • Sep 2012
          • 7825

          #19
          Originally posted by Petrushka View Post
          It's an impossible, even foolhardy, task to pick just one from this lot. NK needs to choose a few, maybe half a dozen, that can realistically be serious contenders in their various ways and proceed to choose one in each category eg HIPP, historical, modern digital, LP era or whatever, otherwise it will be meaningless.

          When it was done as a BaL in about 1979 I can recall that Curzon/VPO/Knappertsbusch 'won'. Wonder how it would fare today?

          I've got many, many recordings on my shelves but my 'go to' for a long time was Perahia/Concertgebouw/Haitink.
          I really enjoy that Perahia/Haitink series. It seems fashionable for critics to bash it.
          Fleisher/Szell has been my mainstay for 40 years but I have always liked Brendel, first with Mehta and then with Levine

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          • verismissimo
            Full Member
            • Nov 2010
            • 2957

            #20
            HIPP recordings seem fewer than I'd imagined:

            Brautigam/Parrott
            Glemser/Weil (?)
            Immerseel/Lamon
            Immerseel/Weil
            Levin/Gardiner
            Schoenderwoerd
            Tan/Norrington
            Others?

            Recommendations please!

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            • vinteuil
              Full Member
              • Nov 2010
              • 13066

              #21
              Originally posted by verismissimo View Post
              HIPP recordings seem fewer than I'd imagined:

              Brautigam/Parrott
              Glemser/Weil (?)
              Immerseel/Lamon
              Immerseel/Weil
              Levin/Gardiner
              Schoenderwoerd
              Tan/Norrington
              Others?

              Recommendations please!
              ... there is also Steven Lubin with the AAM/Hogwood

              My current choice wd be Schoonderwoerd/Cristofori.

              Unreconstructed fans of well-upholstered big-band Beethoven will not like it at all...



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              • Bryn
                Banned
                • Mar 2007
                • 24688

                #22
                Originally posted by verismissimo View Post
                HIPP recordings seem fewer than I'd imagined:

                Brautigam/Parrott
                Glemser/Weil (?)
                Immerseel/Lamon
                Immerseel/Weil
                Levin/Gardiner
                Schoenderwoerd
                Tan/Norrington
                Others?

                Recommendations please!
                Brautigam used a Steinway, not an historic instrument for his Beethoven concerto recordings.

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                • BBMmk2
                  Late Member
                  • Nov 2010
                  • 20908

                  #23
                  Originally posted by Eine Alpensinfonie View Post
                  Just a reminder. Before posting omissions (of which I's sure there are quite a few), please check the first TWO posts. Being a long list, it exceeded the maximum number of characters for a single post.
                  Many thanks for your sterling work on this forum EA! Very much appreciated.

                  I have Ashkenazy/CSO/Solti, Pierre Laurent Aimard/CoE/Harnoncourt Mitsuko Uchida’s too.
                  Don’t cry for me
                  I go where music was born

                  J S Bach 1685-1750

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                  • vinteuil
                    Full Member
                    • Nov 2010
                    • 13066

                    #24
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                    ... I think Immerseel/Lamon and Immerseel/Weil are the same thing. (?) My various copies of this have it as Jos van Immerseel (fortepiano), Tafelmusik (on period instruments), Jeanne Lamon (music director), Bruno Weil (conductor)

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                    • verismissimo
                      Full Member
                      • Nov 2010
                      • 2957

                      #25
                      Originally posted by vinteuil View Post
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                      ... I think Immerseel/Lamon and Immerseel/Weil are the same thing. (?) My various copies of this have it as Jos van Immerseel (fortepiano), Tafelmusik (on period instruments), Jeanne Lamon (music director), Bruno Weil (conductor)

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                      And your judgement, vinty?

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                      • verismissimo
                        Full Member
                        • Nov 2010
                        • 2957

                        #26
                        Originally posted by vinteuil View Post
                        ...

                        Unreconstructed fans of well-upholstered big-band Beethoven will not like it at all...



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                        As others, I have lots of big-band performances, so many of them excellent, it seems to me.

                        That will make Sir Kenyon's job doubly difficult.

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                        • verismissimo
                          Full Member
                          • Nov 2010
                          • 2957

                          #27
                          Surprise: only two Karajan recordings - Gieseking and Weissenberg.

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                          • cloughie
                            Full Member
                            • Dec 2011
                            • 22239

                            #28
                            Originally posted by verismissimo View Post
                            Surprise: only two Karajan recordings - Gieseking and Weissenberg.
                            ...and neither are DG. I suppose that Kempff Leitner, then Pollini Bohm and Eschenbach then Pollini Abbado covered that label over the years.

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                            • Bryn
                              Banned
                              • Mar 2007
                              • 24688

                              #29
                              Two extreme contrasts are among my favourites, Schoonderwoerd (very HIPP), and Gould/Stockie (outrageously unBeethovian, let alone unHIPP!).

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                              • vinteuil
                                Full Member
                                • Nov 2010
                                • 13066

                                #30
                                Originally posted by verismissimo View Post
                                And your judgement, vinty?
                                ... as in my #21 above :

                                Originally posted by vinteuil View Post
                                ...

                                My current choice wd be Schoonderwoerd/Cristofori.

                                Unreconstructed fans of well-upholstered big-band Beethoven will not like it at all...



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