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  • Eine Alpensinfonie
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    BaL 9.02.19 - Beethoven: Piano Concerto no 5 in E flat "Emperor"

    09.30
    Building a Library: Sir Nicholas Kenyon listens to and compares some of the available recordings of Beethoven’s Piano Concerto No 5 in E flat major, Op.73 ‘Emperor’.

    Beethoven’s 5th Piano Concerto in E flat major, Op.73, nicknamed the ‘Emperor’ is the grandest and even the most symphonic of Beethoven’s concertos. It is also the best known of Beethoven’s five piano concertos and the most often performed. From the very first bars, the orchestra and soloist engage in what sounds like a heroic battle.

    The Emperor Concerto, as it has come to be known, was begun in 1808 and dedicated to Beethoven’s friend and student, the Archduke Rudolf who gave its Leipzig premiere in 1811. The piano had become a more expressive instrument through new technological developments, and the Emperor Concerto therefore quickly became very popular. Carl Czerny gave its Vienna premiere in 1802 and Franz Liszt also loved to play the concerto. #


    Available versions:-


    Pierre-Laurent Aimard, Chamber Orchestra of Europe, Nikolaus Harnoncourt
    Valéry Afanassiev, Mozarteum Orchestra Salzberg, Hubert Soudant
    Leif Ove Andsnes, Mahler Chamber Orchestra
    Nicholas Angelich, Insula Orchestra, Laurence Equilbey
    Géza Anda, SWR Sinfonieorchester Baden-Baden und Freiburg, Hans Rosbaud
    Istvan Antal, Hungarian State Orchestra, Gyula Nemeth*
    Claudio Arrau, Staatskapelle Dresden, Sir Colin Davis
    Claudio Arrau, Philharmonia Orchestra, Alceo Galliera
    Claudio Arrau, Royal Concertgebouw Orchestra, Bernard Haitink*
    Claudio Arrau, Philharmonia Orchestra, Otto Klemperer
    Claudio Arrau, Boston Symphony Orchestra, Pierre Monteux
    Claudio Arrau, The Symphony Orchestra of the University of Chile (DVD)
    Vladimir Ashkenazy, Cleveland Orchestra*
    Vladimir Ashkenazy, Chicago Symphony Orchestra, Georg Solti (DVD/Blu-ray)
    Vladimir Ashkenazy, Chicago Symphony Orchestra, Georg Solti
    Vladimir Ashkenazy, Wiener Philharmoniker, Zubin Mehta
    Emanuel Ax, Royal Philharmonic Orchestra, Andre Previn
    Gina Bachauer, London Symphony Orchestra, Stanislaw Skrowaczewski
    Wilhelm Backhaus, Sudfunk-Sinfonieorchester, Joseph Keilberth*
    Wilhelm Backhaus, Gewandhausorchester Leipzig, Franz Konwitschny*
    Wilhelm Backhaus, Bayerisches Staatsorchester, Hans Knappertsbusch
    Wilhelm Backhaus, Wiener Philharmoniker, Clemens Krauss
    Wilhelm Backhaus, London Symphony Orchestra, Landon Ronald
    Wilhelm Backhaus, Wiener Philharmoniker, Hans Schmidt-Isserstedt*
    Paul Badura-Skoda, North German Radio Symphony Orchestra, Hans Knappertsbusch
    Paul Badura-Skoda, Vienna State Opera Orchestra, Hermann Scherchen*
    Daniel Barenboim, Berliner Philharmoniker*
    Daniel Barenboim, Staatskapelle Berlin
    Daniel Barenboim, Staatskapelle Berlin (DVD/Blu-ray)
    Daniel Barenboim, Berliner Philharmoniker, Claudio Abbado (DVD/Blu-ray)
    Daniel Barenboim, New Philharmonia Orchestra, Otto Klemperer
    Alessio Bax, Southbank Sinfonia, Simon Over
    Boris Berezovsky, Swedish Chamber Orchestra Örebro
    Idil Biret, Bilkent Symphony Orchestra, Antoni Wit
    Felicja Blumenthal, Vienna Symphony Orchestra, Robert Wagner
    Jorge Bolet, Radio-Symphonie-Orchester Berlin, Moshe Atzmon
    Ronald Brautigam, Norrköping Symphony Orchestra, Andrew Parrott (SACD)
    Alfred Brendel, London Philharmonic Orchestra, Bernard Haitink
    Alfred Brendel, Chicago Symphony Orchestra, James Levine
    Alfred Brendel, Vienna Symphony Orchestra, Zubin Mehta
    Alfred Brendel, Vienna Philharmonic Orchestra, Simon Rattle
    Alfred BfrendelVienna Symphony Orchestra, Heinz Wallberg
    Yefim Bronfman, Concertgebouw Orchestra, Andris Nelsons (DVD/Blu-ray))
    Yefim Bronfman, Tonhalle Orchestra, David Zinman*
    Rudolf Buchbinder, Wiener Philharmoniker (DVD/Blu-ray)
    Robert Casadesus, New York Philharmonic Orchestra, Guido Cantelli
    Robert Casadesus, New York Philharmonic Orchestra, Dimitri Mitropoulos
    Robert Casadesus, Wiener Philharmoniker, Dimitri Mitropoulos
    Robert Casadesus, BBC Symphony Orchestra, Sir Malcolm Sargent
    Van Cliburn, Chicago Symphony Orchestra, Fritz Reiner*
    Van Cliburn, Moscow Philharmonic, Kyrill Kondrashin (DVD)
    Clifford Curzon, Wiener Philharmoniker, Hans Knappertsbusch
    Clifford Curzon, Symphonie-Orchester des Bayerischen Rundfunks, Rafael Kubelik
    Clifford Curzon, London Philharmonic Orchestra, George Szell*
    Anton Dikov, Sofia Philharmonic Orchestra, Emil Tabakov*
    Barry Douglas, Camerata Ireland*
    Youri Egorov, Philharmonia Orchestra, Wolfgang Sawallisch
    Christoph Eschenbach, Boston Symphony Orchestra, Seiji Ozawa (CD/SACD)
    Till Fellner, Montreal Symphony Orchestra, Kent Nagano
    Rudolf Firku�ný, Pittsburgh Symphony Orchestra, William Steinberg*
    Edwin Fischer, Sächsische Staatskapelle Dresden, Karl Böhm
    Edwin Fischer, Philharmonia Orchestra, Wilhelm Furtwängler (CD/SACD)
    Leon Fleisher, Cleveland Orchestra, George Szell
    Andor Foldes, Berliner Philharmoniker, Ferdinand Leitner
    Nelson Freire, Gewandhausorchester, Riccardo Chailly
    Mario Galeani, Royal Philharmonic Orchestra, Grzegorz Nowak
    Bruno Leonardo Gelber, Philharmonia Orchestra, Ferdinand Leitner*
    Walter Gieseking, Philharmonia Orchestra, Herbert von Karajan
    Walter Gieseking, Berlin Radio Orchestra, Arthur Rother*
    Walter Gieseking, Wiener Philharmoniker, Bruno Walter
    Walter Gieseking, NHK Symphony Orchestra, Kurt Wöss
    Emil Gilels, Tschechische Philharmonie, Karl Böhm
    Emil Gilels, Philharmonia Orchestra, Leopold Ludwig
    Emil Gilels, Cleveland Orchestra, George Szell
    Emil Gilels, WDR Symphony Orchestra, Günter Wand
    Emil Gilels, Tschechische Philharmonie, Kurt Sanderling
    Bernd Glemser, Duisburger Philharmoniker, Bruno Weil
    Richard Goode, Budapest Festival Orchestra, Ivan Fischer*
    Glenn Gould, American Symphony Orchestra, Leopold Stokowski
    Glenn Gould, Toronto Symphony Orchestra, Karel Ancerl
    Glenn Gould, Buffalo Philharmonic Orchestra, Josef Krips*
    Lelia Gousseau, Boston Symphony Orchestra, Charles Munch
    Helene Grimaud, Staatskapelle Dresden, Vladimir Jurowski*
    Cor de Groot, Royal Concertgebouw Orchestra, Willem Mengelberg
    Cor de Groot, Wiener Symphoniker, Willem van Otterloo
    Friedrich Gulda, Wiener Philharmoniker, Horst Stein*
    François-Frédéric Guy, Orchestre Philharmonique de Radio France, Philippe Jordan
    Oksoo Han, Moscow Philharmonic Orchestra, Dmitry Yablonsky
    Fujiko Hemming, Moscow Philharmonic Orchestra, Yuri Simonov*
    Dame Myra Hess, Philharmonic Symphony Orchestra, Efrem Kurtz*
    Michael Houstoun, New Zealand Symphony Orchestra, Janos Furst*
    Vladimir Horowitz, RCA Victor Symphony Orchestra, Fritz Reiner
    Jos van Immerseel, Tafelmusik, Jeanne Lamon
    Jos van Immerseel, Tafelmusik, Bruno Weil
    Diedre Irons, Christchurch Symphony, Marc Decio Taddei
    Eugene Istomin, Philadelphia Orchestra, Eugene Ormandy
    Ingrid Jacoby, Sinfonia Varsovia, Jacek Kaspszyk
    Julian von Károlyi, Symphonie-Orchester des Bayerischen Rundfunks, Robert Heger
    Julius Katchen, London Symphony Orchestra, Piero Gamba
    Mindru Katz, Hallé Orchestra, Sir John Barbirolli
    Wilhelm Kempff, Berliner Philharmoniker, Ferdinand Leitner
    Wilhelm Kempff, Berlin Philharmonic Orchestra, Paul van Kempen
    Wilhelm Kempff, Berlin Philharmonic Orchestra, Peter Raabe
    Sunwook Kim, Seoul Philharmonic Orchestra, Myung-Whun Chung*
    Evgeny Kissin, London Symphony Orchestra, Sir Colin Davis
    Evgeny Kissin, Philharmonia Orchestra, James Levine*
    Mari Kodama, Deutsches Symphonie-Orchester Berlin, Kent Nagano
    Stephen Kovacevich, Australian Chamber Orchestra
    Stephen Kovacevich, London Symphony Orchestra, Sir Colin Davis
    Norman Krieger, Buffalo Philharmonic Orchestra, Joann Falletta*
    Anton Kuerti, Toronto Symphony Orchestra, Andrew Davis
    Alicia de Larrocha, Radio-Symphony-Orchestra Berlin, Riccardo Chailly
    Alicia de Larrocha, Los Angeles Philharmonic Orchestra, Zubin Mehta*
    Hyo Joo Lee, Musikkollegium Winterthur, Douglas Boyd*
    Robert Levin, Orchestre Révolutionnaire et Romantique, The Monteverdi Choir, John Eliot Gardiner
    Paul Lewis, BBC Symphony Orchestra, Jiri Belohlávek
    John Lill, City of Birmingham Symphony Orchestra, Walter Weller
    Steven Lubin, The Academy of Ancient Music, Christopher Hogwood*
    Radu Lupu, Israel Philharmonic Orchestra, Zubin Mehta
    Nikita Magaloff, Sächsische Staatskapelle Dresden, George Szell
    Michal Masek, Czech Chamber Philharmonic Orchestra, Leos Svarovsky

    (continued in post 2)
    Last edited by Eine Alpensinfonie; 28-01-19, 21:51.
  • Eine Alpensinfonie
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    #2
    (continued from opening post)

    Arturo Benedetti Michelangeli, Wiener Symphoniker, Carlo Maria Giulini
    Arturo Benedetti Michelangeli, Orchestre National de l’ORTF, Jean Martinon
    Arturo Benedetti Michelangeli, Orchestra Sinfonica di Torino della RAI, Nino Sanzogno*
    Arturo Benedetti Michelangeli, Prague Symphony Orchestra (FOK), Vàclav Smetacek (SACD)
    Arturo Benedetti Michelangeli, Danish National Symphony Orchestra, Jan Krenz (DVD)
    Hannes Minnaar, Netherlands Symphony Orchestra, Jan Willem de Vriend (SACD)
    Benno Moiseiwitsch, London Philharmonic Orchestra, George Szell
    Benno Moiseiwitsch, Stadium Symphony Orchestra of New York, Josef Krips
    Victor Emanuel von Monteton, Academy of St. Martin-in-the-Fields, Neville Marriner*
    Olli Mustonen, Tapiola Sinfonietta (SACD)
    Elly Ney, Wiener Philharmoniker, Karl Böhm*
    Guiomar Novaes, Bamberg Symphony Orchestra, Jonel Perlea
    John O’Conor, London Symphony Orchestra, Andreas Delfs
    Gerhard Oppitz, Gewandhausorchester Leipzig, Marek Janowski*
    Jorge Federico Osorio, Royal Philharmonic Orchestra, Enrique Batiz
    Jan Panenka, Prague Symphony Orchestra, Václav Smetácek
    Murray Perahia, Concertgebouw Orchestra, Bernard Haitink
    Murray Perahia, Academy of St Martin in the Fields, Sir Neville Marriner (DVD/Blu-ray)
    Mikhail Petukhov
    Joshua Pierce, Slovak State Philharmonic Orchestra, Bystrik Rezucha*
    Artur Pizarro, Scottish Chamber Orchestra, Sir Charles Mackerras
    Mikhail Pletnev, Russian National Orchestra, Christian Gansch*
    Maurizio Pollini, Berliner Philharmoniker, Claudio Abbado
    Maurizio Pollini, Wiener Philharmoniker, Karl Böhm
    Maurizio Pollini, Wiener Philharmoniker, Karl Böhm (DVD)
    Maurizio Pollini, Orchestra Sinfonica di Roma, orchestra Sinfonica di Torino
    Robert Riefling, Oslo Philharmonic Orchestra, Gabriel Chmura
    Hans Richter-Haaser, Philharmonia Orchestra, Istvan Kertesz
    Eliane Rodrigues, St. Petersburg State Symphony Orchestra, Walter Proost*
    Michael Roll, Royal Philharmonic Orchestra, Howard Shelley
    Arthur Rubinstein, London Philharmonic Orchestra, Daniel Barenboim
    Arthur Rubinstein, Symphony of the Air, Josef Krips*
    Arthur Rubinstein, Boston Symphony Orchestra, Erich Leinsdorf
    Arthur Rubinstein, Philharmonia Orchestra, Eugene Ormandy
    Alexander Sandler, St. Petersburg Classic Music Studio Orchestra, Alexander Titov*
    András Schiff, Staatskapelle Dresden, Bernard Haitink*
    Artur Schnabel, London Symphony Orchestra, Malcolm Sargent
    Artur Schnabel, Chicago Symphony Orchestra, Frederick Stock
    Oliver Schnyder, Lucerne Festival Orchestra, James Gaffigan
    Arthur Schoonderwoerd, Cristofori Ensemble, Nachtmusique
    Rudolf Serkin, New York Philharmonic Orchestra, Leonard Bernstein
    Rudolf Serkin, New York Philharmonic Symphony Orchestra, Guido Cantelli
    Rudolf Serkin, Orchestra “Alessandro Scarlatti” di Napoli della RAI, Franco Caracciolo*
    Rudolf Serkin, New York Philharmonic-Symphony Orchestra, George Enescu
    Rudolf Serkin, Symphonieorchester des Bayerischen Rundfunks, Chor des Bayerischen Rundfunks, Rafael Kubelik
    Rudolf Serkin, New York Philharmonic Orchestra, Pierre Monteux
    Rudolf Serkin, The Philadelphia Orchestra, Eugene Ormandy*
    Rudolf Serkin, Boston Symphony Orchestra, Seiji Ozawa
    Howard Shelley, Opera North Orchestra
    Russell Sherman, Monadnock Music Festival Orchestra, James Bolle
    Jeffrey Siegel, Budapest Philharmonic Orchestra, Rico Saccani*
    Solomon, Philharmonia Orchestra, Herbert Menges
    Ignat Solzhenitsyn, Chamber Orchestra of Philadelphia*
    Jasminka Stancul, Haydn Orchestra Of Bolzano And Trento, Gustav Kuhn
    Yevgeny Sudbin, Minnesota Orchestra, Osmo Vänskä (SACD)
    Shoko Sugitani, Berliner Symphoniker, Gerard Oskamp
    Melvyn Tan, London Classical Players, Roger Norrington
    Peter Toperczer, Slovak Philharmonic Orchestra, Libor Pesek*
    Peter Toperczer, Slovak Philharmonic Orchestra, Ladislav Slovák*
    Mitsuko Uchida, Berliner Philharmoniker, Sir Simon Rattle
    Mitsuko Uchida, Symphonie Orchester des Bayerischen Rundfunks, Kurt Sanderling
    Mihaela Ursuleasa, Orchestre de Chambre de Lausanne, Jesús López Cobos*
    Dénes Várjon, Concerto Budapest, András Keller
    Dinorah Varsi,
    Stefan Vladar, Wiener KammerOrchester
    Stefan Vladar, Capella Istropolitana, Barry Wordsworth
    Lars Vogt, Royal Northern Sinfonia
    Galina Vracheva, Kiev Chamber Orchestra, Roman Kofman
    George Walker, Amherst Symphony Orchestra, Smith College, Edwin London
    Alexis Weissenberg, Berlin Philharmonic Orchestra, Herbert von Karajan
    Gerard Willems, Sinfonia Australis, Antony Walker*
    Friedrich Wührer
    Maria Yudina
    Yundi, Berliner Philharmoniker, Daniel Harding
    Christian Zacharias, Staatskapelle Dresden, Hans Vonk*
    Christian Zacharias, Orchestre de Chambre de Lausanne (DVD)
    Dieter Zechlin, Gewandhausorchester Leipzig, Kurt Sanderling
    Krystian Zimerman, Wiener Philharmoniker, Leonard Bernstein
    Krystian Zimerman, Wiener Philharmoniker, Leonard Bernstein (DVD)


    * = download only
    Last edited by Eine Alpensinfonie; 09-02-19, 12:12.

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    • Eine Alpensinfonie
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      • Nov 2010
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      #3
      Just a reminder. Before posting omissions (of which I's sure there are quite a few), please check the first TWO posts. Being a long list, it exceeded the maximum number of characters for a single post.

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      • Bryn
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        • Mar 2007
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        #4
        The WWII Gieseking/BRO/Rother stereo recording seems still to be available on CD:

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        • cloughie
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          #5
          Is that the longest BaL list you’ve supplied to date? I admire your application to the task. Well done!

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          • visualnickmos
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            • Nov 2010
            • 3617

            #6
            Originally posted by cloughie View Post
            Is that the longest BaL list you’ve supplied to date? I admire your application to the task. Well done!
            Inded - thanks, Alpie Imagine having to listen to them all! It'll be interesting as to who will actually get an airing!

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            • Petrushka
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              • Nov 2010
              • 12389

              #7
              It's an impossible, even foolhardy, task to pick just one from this lot. NK needs to choose a few, maybe half a dozen, that can realistically be serious contenders in their various ways and proceed to choose one in each category eg HIPP, historical, modern digital, LP era or whatever, otherwise it will be meaningless.

              When it was done as a BaL in about 1979 I can recall that Curzon/VPO/Knappertsbusch 'won'. Wonder how it would fare today?

              I've got many, many recordings on my shelves but my 'go to' for a long time was Perahia/Concertgebouw/Haitink.
              "The sound is the handwriting of the conductor" - Bernard Haitink

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              • Bryn
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                • Mar 2007
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                #8
                Back around 1980, I had more LPs of the 'Emperor' than any other work by any composer. I have still to find a recording in which the 'slow' movement is played at the tempo which the cut time on the original orchestra parts (supposedly wrongly missing its strike-through in the copy prepared in a hand other than Beethoven's of the full score). There was an interesting television programme on this topic in the early to mid-1980s. I recorded the soundtrack to cassette at the time, but have since lost it. The second and third movements were played on original instruments to illustrate the argument in favour of a tempo around twice that most often encountered in modern times. I found the quicker tempo very convincing. The nearest on disc is that by Tan, the LCP and Norrington. They take their tempi from Czerny's metronome markings. The search continues.

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                • ferneyhoughgeliebte
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                  • Sep 2011
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                  #9
                  Originally posted by Petrushka View Post
                  When it was done as a BaL in about 1979 I can recall that Curzon/VPO/Knappertsbusch 'won'. Wonder how it would fare today?
                  And not forgetting the (in)famous 1974(-ish) choice by Joseph Cooper; Hanae Nakajima with the Nuremberg Symphony Orchestra conducted by Rato Tschupp.
                  [FONT=Comic Sans MS][I][B]Numquam Satis![/B][/I][/FONT]

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                  • Bryn
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                    #10
                    Originally posted by ferneyhoughgeliebte View Post
                    And not forgetting the (in)famous 1974(-ish) choice by Joseph Cooper; Hanae Nakajima with the Nuremberg Symphony Orchestra conducted by Rato Tschupp.
                    Which I had on LP and have on CD. Hanae Nakajima's Ravel recordings were very good, too. I had a boxed set of her playing the complete Ravel works for piano, pus the two concertos. Her Mirrors, in particular, was outstanding. It can still be found as a download or burned to CD-R on the other side of the Pond. Whatever became of her? The last I heard she had returned to Japan around 2004 and was teaching in a University there.
                    Last edited by Bryn; 28-01-19, 23:32. Reason: Update,

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                    • cloughie
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                      #11
                      Originally posted by ferneyhoughgeliebte View Post
                      And not forgetting the (in)famous 1974(-ish) choice by Joseph Cooper; Hanae Nakajima with the Nuremberg Symphony Orchestra conducted by Rato Tschupp.
                      I remember adding that to my first choice Katchen LSO Gamba at the time.

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                      • Barbirollians
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                        #12
                        Originally posted by Bryn View Post
                        Which I had on LP and have on CD. Hanae Nakajima's Ravel recordings were very good, too. Whatever became of her?
                        I hope it is not one of those recordings from the last ten years jobs.

                        I am surprised to find I have 24 of that list ! Plus Serkin/Walter .

                        Barenboim/Klemperer remains my favourite with Fischer/Furtwangler and Solomon/Menges in hot pursuit - closely followed by Kovacevich/Davis,Gulda/Stein ,Fleisher/Szell, the Kempff pair on DG and Uchida/Sanderling.
                        Last edited by Barbirollians; 13-02-19, 12:54.

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                        • ferneyhoughgeliebte
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                          #13
                          Originally posted by Bryn View Post
                          Which I had on LP and have on CD.
                          I had the Windmill LP, bought from the local Tesco's for 50p in c1974; my only recording for about seven or eight years - I must have worn through the vinyl during that time. It is available via YouTube:

                          Piano Concerto no 5 in E flat Major op 73by Ludwig van Beethoven1. Allegro2. Adagio un poco mosso3. Rondo: Allegro ma non troppoHanae Nakajima, PianoBamberge...


                          ... a very spirited performance let down by some dodgy woodwind intonation in the slow movement, and the odd brass "fluff" here & there (which would have been edited out in a more expensive venture). It served me very well indeed at the time - and I've enjoyed hearing it again.
                          [FONT=Comic Sans MS][I][B]Numquam Satis![/B][/I][/FONT]

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                          • pastoralguy
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                            #14
                            For many years, my favourite recording was John Lill with the SNO under Sir Alexander Gibson on CfP which I bought at an SNO concert from the Friends Stall circa 1978. However, my father had a MfP recording of Rudolf Furkusny with the Pittsburgh Symphony Orchestra under Steinberg. The second movement was played at his funeral.

                            One of my all time favourite works.

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                            • pastoralguy
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                              #15
                              Originally posted by cloughie View Post
                              Is that the longest BaL list you’ve supplied to date? I admire your application to the task. Well done!
                              Bravo, sir!

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