The 2016 Proms Season: what are your thoughts?

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  • Prommer
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    • Dec 2010
    • 1259

    #91
    Originally posted by Beef Oven! View Post
    But the point is - that's not saying much.
    Well, perhaps true, but I remember 2007 especially because it was the year of THAT Mahler 3 - with Abbado and the Lucerners. Uncle Bernie will be unlikely to match that, even if someone has slipped something in his Horlicks.

    I enjoyed the Wagner and Strauss years of 2013 and 2014, but in a much more limited way - given my interest in these two quite passable composers.

    This season seems to have a broader, and more catholic base.

    Speaking of which (the catholic bit), we Brucknerians shouldn't grumble this time round!

    Might well be time to get myself a season ticket after a gap...
    Last edited by Prommer; 14-04-16, 10:18.

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    • Nick Armstrong
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      • Nov 2010
      • 26538

      #92
      Originally posted by Anastasius View Post
      How does one actually get to Peckham ?




      Originally posted by Anastasius View Post
      I know a lot of people rave over Haitink's conducting of Mahler but I find him stodgy in the extreme.
      Bernie in Mahler 3 caused me no little expense and inconvenience some years ago - I travelled from outside London to a performance (with the LSO I think) many years ago: the cumulative effect of his shaping of the work was overwhelming to me, and his pacing of the final peroration, with those striding timps, put me into a state of rather altered consciousness... which led me to float through the various forms of transport required after the concert, leaving all my belongings on the seat of an underground train. Money, cards, passport, driving licence &c. - all lost forever.

      (You're not wrong about the tube, Ana )
      "...the isle is full of noises,
      Sounds and sweet airs, that give delight and hurt not.
      Sometimes a thousand twangling instruments
      Will hum about mine ears, and sometime voices..."

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      • Richard Barrett
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        • Jan 2016
        • 6259

        #93
        Originally posted by CallMePaul View Post
        Within the context of a classical music festival, a more appropriate tribute to David Bowie would surely have been either or both of the symphonies by Philip Glass based on Bowie's Heroes and Low albums (2 of Bowie's best IMO).
        Two of Bowie's best, and two of the most pointless orchestral pieces ever committed to paper.

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        • teamsaint
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          • Nov 2010
          • 25210

          #94
          Originally posted by Anastasius View Post
          I know which one I'd prefer to go to. I know a lot of people rave over Haitink's conducting of Mahler but I find him stodgy in the extreme. Having said that if the Weekend Pass extends to include the Friday then that particular weekend is rather good IMO.

          I now what some are saying about factoring in the cost of travel etc. For me, the diesel cost is around £70 return and so that's why I will go for Weekend Passes. I'm fortunate in tat I can also combine it with a visit to the mother.

          Not sure about the external concert locations...Peckham, for instance. How does one actually get to Peckham ? especially if one does not like using the tube and assuming said Peckham is actually on the tube network.
          travel nightmare.

          there is only a train every 15 minutes, and journey time is up to 11 minutes, from London Bridge to either Queens Road or Peckham Rye.
          I will not be pushed, filed, stamped, indexed, briefed, debriefed or numbered. My life is my own.

          I am not a number, I am a free man.

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          • Eine Alpensinfonie
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            • Nov 2010
            • 20570

            #95
            Originally posted by french frank View Post
            I think there's less to 'complain about' on this particular score than there has been in the past.
            That's certainly my first impression. But even last year, most of the complaining was whipped up by Suzy Klein's "snobs" accusation.

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            • Eine Alpensinfonie
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              • Nov 2010
              • 20570

              #96
              Originally posted by Anastasius View Post
              Not sure about the external concert locations...Peckham, for instance. How does one actually get to Peckham ? especially if one does not like using the tube and assuming said Peckham is actually on the tube network.
              Oh dear!!!!!

              The vast majority of the UK has much more difficulty in getting to the RAH, so my heart doesn't exactly bleed for those suffering the tiny inconvenience cited here.

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              • Eine Alpensinfonie
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                • Nov 2010
                • 20570

                #97
                Originally posted by Caliban View Post




                (You know I'll back you up 100% on this one! )

                Oh no! Two of us setting a bad example.

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                • Pulcinella
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                  • Feb 2014
                  • 10950

                  #98
                  Originally posted by teamsaint View Post
                  travel nightmare.

                  there is only a train every 15 minutes, and journey time is up to 11 minutes, from London Bridge to either Queens Road or Peckham Rye.
                  The guide lists all the buses that go there, but doesn't say where you can get them from!

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                  • Ravensbourne
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                    • Dec 2010
                    • 100

                    #99
                    How does one get to Peckham?

                    Originally posted by Anastasius View Post
                    How does one actually get to Peckham ? especially if one does not like using the tube and assuming said Peckham is actually on the tube network.
                    Try this link.

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                    • teamsaint
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                      • Nov 2010
                      • 25210

                      Originally posted by Pulcinella View Post
                      The guide lists all the buses that go there, but doesn't say where you can get them from!


                      this may help.( assuming that buses that go from Peckham also go to it !!)


                      presumably parking will be ok at the venue.
                      I will not be pushed, filed, stamped, indexed, briefed, debriefed or numbered. My life is my own.

                      I am not a number, I am a free man.

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                      • Prommer
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                        • Dec 2010
                        • 1259

                        Peckham? Wasn't he the footer chap?

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                        • Eine Alpensinfonie
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                          • Nov 2010
                          • 20570

                          I'd hate to think of what would happen to tube-oriented Londoners, if they were teleported to a rural spot 200 miles from the capital.

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                          • PhilipT
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                            • May 2011
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                            Originally posted by Petrushka View Post
                            I've got the opposite problem! Lots of good stuff here. You Londoners don't know how lucky you are being able to just turn up on a whim and pay a fiver. I'd estimate a tcket cost of some £400 for me plus travel and hotels. With the cost spread out from May to September (hence 5 months salary coming in) it's a reasonable outlay but it's one I do year after year and I'm not seriously complaining because that's what I want to spend my hard earned cash on.
                            Umm, it's £6.00 now, P. Otherwise I'm with you completely: Over £500 already forked out for accommodation, with over £250 to go on tickets, not to mention half my annual holiday from the job that funds it all.

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                            • MrGongGong
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                              • Nov 2010
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                              Originally posted by Eine Alpensinfonie View Post
                              Oh dear!!!!!

                              The vast majority of the UK has much more difficulty in getting to the RAH, so my heart doesn't exactly bleed for those suffering the tiny inconvenience cited here.

                              If by holding events in places that are slightly (I mean it's only PECKHAM FFS) "out of the way" means that the "heave ho" brigade spend their evenings lost in the depths of SE London then lets attach tracking devices to them and use their movements to generate a real-time score drawing on "Atlas Eclipticalis".

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                              • vinteuil
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                                • Nov 2010
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                                Originally posted by Petrushka View Post
                                You Londoners don't know how lucky you are being able to just turn up on a whim and pay a fiver. I'd estimate a tcket cost of some £400 for me plus travel and hotels. With the cost spread out from May to September (hence 5 months salary coming in) it's a reasonable outlay but it's one I do year after year and I'm not seriously complaining because that's what I want to spend my hard earned cash on.

                                Originally posted by Eine Alpensinfonie View Post
                                I'd hate to think of what would happen to tube-oriented Londoners, if they were teleported to a rural spot 200 miles from the capital.
                                ... there are choices.

                                We have better weather than DracoM, I think - tho' he has more dramatic scenery.

                                We have opportunities for kulchur and other goodies denied to those in the mofussil - but we pay the price in terms of house prices...

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